gotta agree with this...ranks also vary from gym to gym. I was just down training in Florida and we had 2 stripe whites from our club submitting blues. Me and my buddy Ryan who got our blues down there, were able to roll with purples no problem, which why I agree with the above statement. its the person, and how much time you put in, how gifted you are athleticly, etc. However you also have older guys who dont usually compete, they also earn there promotions but demonstrating technique and knowledge, they may not be able to compete with guys that are younger and stronger, but that doesnt mean they havent earned there promotions.Originally Posted by KCBrunoTostesBJJ
I take offense to that.. I am the oldest guy in my gym and probably the strongest. Also just as quick as any of the younger guys.. I do need to work on my cardio more.. and I have every intention of competing..
old dude
j/k
But seriously I know what your saying.. Different school promote for different reasons.. Some people too are not as good at rolling but know the techniques well. and vice verse.
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lol I didnt mean it to sound offensive at all. There are some older guys in my club that are sick, and beat the hell out of me everytime.I take offense to that.. I am the oldest guy in my gym and probably the strongest. Also just as quick as any of the younger guys.. I do need to work on my cardio more.. and I have every intention of competing..
old dude
But seriously I know what your saying.. Different school promote for different reasons.. Some people too are not as good at rolling but know the techniques well. and vice verse.
I know man... just playing.. thats part of the beauty of this art.. age is not as important as it can be in others.. its not about size or strength its about technique nad understanding.
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Since I haven't seen this thread till now I'm not reading 5 pages, but in response to the first (page), I personally feel that no belt is deserved (for practitioners under 50) unless earned through competition. You can't have good technique and be a bad fighter.
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well not everybody can go to competitions
i work weekends and i got school on the weekdays
what happens when u mix brown chicken and a brown cow? brown chicka brown cow
I run a strength and conditioning class for our MMA guys. Since it's for MMA, it's pretty intense. I have a few people who attend who are not fighters, and they are noticeably slower, not as strong, not as conditioned, etc. I tell people constantly that this is not a competition. It's not about whether you can perform at the same level as someone else. It's about your personal development. It's about your progression, so that you do better next week than you did this week, and so on. You're only really competing against yourself. I personally believe the same can be said about promotions. It's a personal journey, and you should not compare your journey with someone else's. I don't care how much you can do, I care more about how hard you try. The guy who can breeze through 20 burpies in a minute is not as impressive to me as the guy who struggles as hard as he can to get 10 in the same amount of time. Promotions are between you and your coach. But, what the hell do I know?
I disagree. Not everyone is a competitor. Not everyone wants to compete. Makes me think of my good friend who I went to school with. She had WAY more knowledge than me, spent time outside of class reading and studying. I'd ask her to explain stuff to me all the time, cause she almost always had a better understanding of the material. Then test day would come in, I'd walk in and get an A, and she'd get a C. Is that because she didn't know this stuff? No. She's just really bad at taking tests, while I am really good at taking tests. It wasn't a fair test of our knowledge and abilities. She demonstrated on numerous occasions not only a better understanding of the material, but a far greater amount of effort to succeed. She would just blank when it came to tests, the pressure got to her I suppose.
Competition proves very little in the larger spectrum of things. Because I have met many people who have great competition records and won tons of Medals. However, what you are not told is that they had One or Two people in their division and given a Medal or a Championship anyway. How is that comparable to someone who has to fight 10 or 15 people in a division and Medal. Also being a Great Competitor doesn't translate into having Great Technique. Many competitors have techniques that give them personal success, but that doesn't always translate into other peoples success. I have known many people that haven't ever touched a tournament mat and have Awesome Technique, that if applied and repped can be taught to anyone.
Let's see if your opinion is the same when you have spend most of your life training. Competition is designed for younger people, when your body is at it's peak of health, and an Ego in need of feeding. The longer you train, the more you will desire Knowledge and Skillful Technique over the desire to Compete.
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not everyone one competes,
If you do compete really think you should do so for fun. If you dont enjoy competition dont do it, those of us who do need training partners, and I dont think that takes away from your skill in BJJ.
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