Every instructor is different but based on just your question a lone I do not agree with getting a stripe that is not earned. That being said being good enough for one stripe is nothing really.
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The Belt system has always been flawed. In the West people tend to pursue the inanimate object rather then focus on their training. The training is what is really important, that is all I am saying.Originally Posted by geffcardo
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I agree there to many in the west want instant gratification.. My instructor actually asked how how much it would cost to start at a higher belt I mean people just no longer understand the value of working hard for something in this country (The US) they just want everything handed to them.. I mean just look at the last election...
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what some of you dont understand is that to compete at certain levels you must have a certain belt. but if you are stuck with a white belt, you can only compete against other white belts.
so wanting to be promoted is more than just about the belt, its can also be about wanting to compete at higher levels.
oh yeah, i forgot some people dont want to compete, you guys can wait behind the rest of us.
A thought about those that may not want to compete and earning a stripe.
First off, everyone should EARN their stripe. How they earn it will vary by instructor and school, but the thought of paying for a belt is disgraceful.
I was planning on doing my first tournaments in about 3-4 months. I thought I had a great, obtainable goal to work for. As time went on I remembered two things...
1) I'm old and crippled. Training 3 days a week has been very hard on my body. I am getting in great shape and losing inches around the waist, but you just can't ignore a lifetime of previous injuries and father time.
2) When I first walked into the school I said I was there to learn, get in shape and have fun. And, I am. That's why I go 3 days a week even though I can barely walk on my way out.
I've decided (for now) to skip the tournaments. I am having a blast going to the school and working hard to learn and apply what I have learned. Some nights I can keep up with the teenagers and some nights I can barely get through the warm ups. Either way, I will still show up and do the best I can.
For this reason, I will be very proud for every stripe and belt promotion I earn. When the instructors, that I chose to train with because I respect them, want to reward me for the work I've done, That will be like winning a tournament for me.
Bottom line is, we are all at different levels and abilities and have different goals. The instructors may see things we don't always see. I will trust their judgment.
Come again please. I'm a little confused by your statement about your instructor and higher belts. Also, the election part. Thanks in advance.
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I don't understand why anyone would train under a guy who tried to buy a belt. I'm hoping I'm just misunderstanding what he is trying to say.
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I believe that everyone has their own credentials for promoting someone. If an instructor feels that they have earned a stripe or a belt than who am I to say that they haven't. And I must agree one stripe is far from black but it is encourangement and motivation to keep working towards that goal.
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How much do you think promoting has to do with the economics off bjj?
A lot, a buddy of mine was training at a very well known place for a year and when he was ready to get promoted to Blue Belt they told him that they will promote him only after he signs up for an additional 2 years with a contract.
Also you can see it in the similarities of there pricing. Not many BJJ school's are a bargain. Normally they rank from $150.00 to $200.00 USD a month and most if not all have some sort of contractual agreement.
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"There is no boundary in the way of flexibility, and the heart shall see no enemy." Mifune, Kyuzo 10th Dan
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