Ok here's the situation: over the summer, one of the owners of my academy decided he wanted to open a branch of AKA up here in Idaho. They went their separate ways and that was that. Recently, he has been posting "propaganda" on facebook about my instructor. Saying things like he is an illegitimate black belt, or the newest: "instructors that do not roll with their students are frauds". These are clearly directed towards my instructor. So what do you think? Should it matter whether an instructor trains firsthand with his students?
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This was originally posted by Ricardo Almeida like 4 or 5 days ago and the statement has been making a splash. "instructors that do not train with their students are frauds." To be honest when I first read it I thought it sounded ridiculous, but the more I thought about it, the more I agree with it. Im very blessed to be able to teach BJJ full time as my job. Therefore a large amount of my training, comes from working with, grappling with, and training with my students. My instructor trains with all of us, his instructor (Ricardo De La Riva) trains with his students. I think people that dont are simply hiding behind there belts, and have to much ego to lose to there students. Getting swept or caught by your students is not a bad thing, its a good thing...means there actually learning something. Your goal as an instructor should be to pass on as much knowledge and skill as you can, and if your doing that well your students should be able to roll with you. I dont see any reason (other than injury) that an instructor shouldnt roll with his students.
Ok. I see where youre coming from. And I probably should have thrown in when I wrote this that he used to roll with me all the time. He has't done it for a few years, but I really dont see the need to. He knows his stuff and our track record shows that what he teaches works. I always like to see him roll but i dont have a need to.
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I agree with this post 100%. My instructor always rolls with us and I think alot of it is so he can judge where we are in our training and uses alot of what he sees when he rolls with us to help work on problem areas. I think it helps me alot because it shows me what works against higher belts and what doesnt. Really theres no reason for an instructor not to roll with students unless like you said they are afraid to lose to students. My school is really laid back too and think that has alot to do with it. Having said that I never ask my instructor to roll I always wait for him to ask me.Originally Posted by Avenged
My instructor doesn't roll with students, He gets on the mats and will go through technique etc but no sparring. It doesn't seem to have affected anybody's performance in the club at all as we all do well in comps etc.
Oddly it's never bothered me and I've never heard anyone else question it at our club. He's had no problem gauging people by observing how they go against each over in class.
I don't think it's ego based or anything but largely due to the fact he's the only instructor so he's busy keeping an eye on everyone when we do free rolling.
So I wouldn't go so far to say it's essential, I really think its dependent on the teacher. Some people can get the feedback they need from just observing and some can't tell without getting hands on.
Joemac9408 said it all..totally agree.. our instructor always rolls with us.
This is what I see it as. He likes to walk around and watch everyone roll when we do our 10 rounds. He can't do that if he's busy. He has our brown belt and our purple belt (wow, I just realized we only have one purple belt left) roll with us and they give him feedback.
"The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in battle"
"To conquer without risk is to triumph without pride"
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But to go as far as calling them frauds? That's a little extreme. I don't want to brag, but he's as legit as it gets. we've taken the team trophy from every small tournament we've been to, and the level of detail in his teachings are unmatched in this area. So I can see why it would be frowned upon, but he's not a fraud just because he doesn't roll anymore.
"The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in battle"
"To conquer without risk is to triumph without pride"
http://shop.thebjjlifestyle.com/?Click=909
Yeah don't stress about the whole fraud thing, every one has there own concept of what instructors and schools should be like to be "proper". All you gotta do is ask yourself if your benefiting from training there. If the answer is yes then don't worry.
I think any person who plays negative politics where all they can say is bad stuff about the other guy has already lost. If you can't sell yourself without downing the other guy you can't be that good.
Closest I can relate to having someone say bad stuff about our instructor/club is a rival club who didn't show up to a comp we helped organized (not even to watch, and yes they were invited) then went on to belittle all the people(this was in writing on there own website) who won a medal saying it it was too small a comp for the medals to have any meaning blah blah blah they'd be ashamed to call themselves a winner in something like that blah blah blah. Nobody responded we just ignored it. When you respond to things like that your just giving them what they want, attention. Turns out the other club have tried to start a competition circuit and have been deliberately running down other events and organizers trying to make theirs seem like something bigger then it is.
our school is small enough that we get to roll with our instructor, and he rolls with all the students
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